James Urbaniak ([info]urbaniak) wrote,
@ 2007-03-06 20:21:00
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HOW DARE THEY!!!1!

Stay classy.

Well, my old drinking buddy Scooter Libby has been convicted on four felony counts. Dude, e-mail me. We are totally getting drunk together. Then we are going to beat this thing on appeal! When I become a regular on this (and as God is my witness I am going to do everything in my power to make that happen), you can expect a big donation to the Libby Legal Defense Trust. And if we can get Ron Silver to play the other caveman, we're talking dinosaur dollars! I love you, man.

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[info]notoriousnoir
2007-03-07 01:48 am UTC (link)
Darn, I was kinda hoping they'd make a show based on the repressed homosexuals in the Snickers commercial.

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[info]urbaniak
2007-03-07 01:56 am UTC (link)
If I could "almost kiss" Ron Silver on the mouth every week they wouldn't even have to pay me.

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[info]psmonkey
2007-03-07 01:54 am UTC (link)
i wonder if anyone will send him a judith miller esk letter. "weather's changing, roots are growing, you're pardoned."

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[info]urbaniak
2007-03-07 02:08 am UTC (link)
Hey, that Doc-Billy-Molotov drawing on your LJ is the berries.

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[info]psmonkey
2007-03-07 04:53 am UTC (link)
why thank you, i intend to draw the entire cast.

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[info]snatchbeast
2007-03-07 02:15 am UTC (link)
ahh, very nice links =)

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[info]spooky_chan
2007-03-07 02:22 am UTC (link)
I 'lolled'.

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[info]toddalcott
2007-03-07 02:26 am UTC (link)
Of course, you realize that cavemen and dinosaurs lived 65 million years apart. So it's impossible for you to make "dinosaur dollars" from a series about cavemen.

FYI.

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[info]urbaniak
2007-03-07 02:49 am UTC (link)
Duh. I took Out of the Cave: Prehistory in Fact and Fiction where I also learned that the Geico commercials are one of the "most sensitive" dramatic renderings of prehistoric man. Mock the "Cavemen" sitcom if you must but it will give our noble ancestors their due. I am proud to aspire to it.

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[info]tao_of_tyler
2007-03-07 02:41 am UTC (link)
I more than a little ashamed to say that I would probably watch the cavemen show.

Sad but true.

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[info]witchinghours
2007-03-07 03:32 am UTC (link)
Are you one of the Geico cavemen in the commercials? I knew Jim Rose was one of them. I never knew who played any of the other cavemen. It would be cool if they let Jim Rose do his "Dr. Blockhead" act of pounding nails into his nose on the cavemen television show like they did in the X-Files(although I somehow doubt ABC will let that happen).

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[info]urbaniak
2007-03-07 04:24 am UTC (link)
I'm not a Geico caveman but I am the voice of the late-night talk show host who interviews the lizard.

The actors who play the cavemen are named Jeff Daniel Phillips, Ben Weber and John Lehr. The Jim Rose thing appears to be an internet myth. Unless he confirms it himself somewhere.

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[info]urbaniak
2007-03-07 04:33 am UTC (link)
I stand corrected. That's what I get for not scrolling down his MySpace page.

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[info]urbaniak
2007-03-07 04:41 am UTC (link)
Okay, wait a minute. Jonn Lehr's website has the same exact caveman makeup photos as the ones on Jim Rose's Myspace page. They both claim its them. Who's lying?

CAVEMANGATE!

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[info]notoriousnoir
2007-03-07 06:53 am UTC (link)
I'm calling Jim Rose as the fraud, since he links to the photos from someone else's photobucket!

Or, it could just be a joke because he looks cavemanish. But why the hell should we let him off that easy? Libby's getting a bunkmate.

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[info]urbaniak
2007-03-07 01:04 pm UTC (link)
Never trust a carnie.

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[info]witchinghours
2007-03-08 01:58 am UTC (link)
I did a Google search for "Jim Rose" and "caveman" and the only thing that pointed any connection between Jim Rose and the Geico cavemen were references to Jim Rose's MySpace profile. Granted the internet may not be a perfect source of information(for example, when I did a Google search for Matt Pinfield and WPRB, one of the radio stations he used to DJ at, there weren't many sources that mentions the fact he used to DJ there) but it looks as though everything's weighing against Jim Rose. I just don't understand where the humor lies in claiming to be one of the Geico cavemen if Jim Rose is trying to make a joke of some sort. If there is some kind of actual humor to Jim Rose's caveman joke that I'm overlooking then I'm Matt Pinfield.

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[info]urbaniak
2007-03-08 04:01 am UTC (link)
Ah, WPRB Princeton. The 1980s alternative music college station.

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[info]teamwak
2007-03-07 10:18 am UTC (link)
LOL. Will there be secret recordings of the cavemen that will be kept hidden from the plebs?

"Ugg!"
"Thats slander!"

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[info]voodoopeacock
2007-03-07 04:12 am UTC (link)
That was the first thing I thought when I read about this a few days ago - "Is this the sci fi show James auditioned for?". Because I assume you have an in with Geico now. It's all about the networking.

And yeah, I would probably watch at least the first few episodes of that.

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[info]urbaniak
2007-03-07 04:26 am UTC (link)
I have not auditioned for the Cavemen pilot. I'm not aware that they've started auditions.

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donations
(Anonymous)
2007-03-07 04:51 am UTC (link)
If you donate $.01 to the Libby Legal Defense fund, it will cost the Libby Legal Defense fund $.35 in credit card fees.

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[info]noskilz
2007-03-07 04:52 am UTC (link)
While not the Fitzmas some dreamed of, it seems like a good start. Have you been following the Attorney General purge business? The fallout from that should supply a steady infusion of oddness for some time.

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Happy Fitzmas Minor!
[info]greyaenigma
2007-03-07 06:06 am UTC (link)
It's funny. I was waiting in line this morning to drop off my car, and they announced they were about to read the verdict for the Scooter case in "just a few minutes". I waited as long as I could. Sadly, I had to leave the car (disaster ensued, but that's a different story) before the verdict was announced. Today was so distracting, I didn't think to check. Then I come home and find this, and then a minute later they announce it on the radio.

Hooray!

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[info]right_thinker
2007-03-07 09:22 am UTC (link)
Leave it to the Anklets to cheer a man's downfall in a miscarriage of justice.

They jeer at us conservatives for our supposed lack of compassion, but all I see coming from the liberal camp is hatred.

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[info]robolizard
2007-03-07 09:51 am UTC (link)
[flings monkey poo in order to start monkey poo war]

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[info]right_thinker
2007-03-07 08:38 pm UTC (link)
Do let us know how the thesis is coming along.

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[info]robolizard
2007-03-07 08:45 pm UTC (link)
Thesis: Monkey poo splatters real funny.

Three main points-

Splatter is funny
Monkey is funny
Poop is funny.

Conclusion: The combination of all 3 is a barell of laughs.

I await the scholars's reactions.

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[info]right_thinker
2007-03-07 08:59 pm UTC (link)
I see no serious research here whatsoever. And your lack of citation will spell trouble as you move toward publication. But keep reaching for the stars!

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[info]teamwak
2007-03-07 10:23 am UTC (link)
But Aklet-in_Chief is pro Libby. Cant ask more than that

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[info]notoriousnoir
2007-03-07 06:06 pm UTC (link)
It's not hatred, it's seeing a fair punishment for an actual crime. Which he'll probably get off on a pardon from our compassionate president.

But hatred? Nah. Heck, nobody even called him a "faggot."

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[info]urbamaniak
2007-03-07 07:08 pm UTC (link)
But hopefully someone will soon be calling him "bitch."

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[info]right_thinker
2007-03-07 08:43 pm UTC (link)
It's not hatred, it's seeing a fair punishment for an actual crime.

Which of course brings to mind the fact that there was no actual crime. Tip o' the hat to you.

Osama is in his cave somewhere laughing his ass off at this country who, when attacked, turns on itself and expends all its energy on bringing down the leaders who are trying to fight him. Here we are trying to fight a war of ideology and people like Fitzgerald are doing all of Osama's work for him.

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Osama?
(Anonymous)
2007-03-07 09:42 pm UTC (link)
My God! That's what this whole thing was about!!!! OSAMA!!!!

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Re: Osama?
[info]right_thinker
2007-03-07 09:51 pm UTC (link)
You're laughing, but all too often we forget the truth in our American forest of media signifiers.

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Politicization
(Anonymous)
2007-03-09 08:32 pm UTC (link)
Actually, I'm not laughing. I'm horrified. This administration has consistently bullied politicized and fouled up FEMA, Science, Education and our Judicial system.
I'm quoting The New York Times:
"Donald Shields and John Cragan, two professors of communication, have compiled a database of investigations and/or indictments of candidates and elected officials by U.S. attorneys since the Bush administration came to power. Of the 375 cases they identified, 10 involved independents, 67 involved Republicans, and 298 involved Democrats. The main source of this partisan tilt was a huge disparity in investigations of local politicians, in which Democrats were seven times as likely as Republicans to face Justice Department scrutiny."
And this is all in the name of 9/11.
One would think someone was benefiting from terrorism.
I don't think it's Osama.
That you are so young and believe yourself so right horrifies me even more.

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Re: Politicization
[info]urbaniak
2007-03-09 09:16 pm UTC (link)
Word to the wise: in the same way that Jonathan Swift didn't really want people to eat babies, some of my "crazier" commenters operate on, let us say, levels of reality. Look close.

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[info]notoriousnoir
2007-03-08 04:10 am UTC (link)
"Osama is in his cave somewhere laughing his ass off at this country who, when attacked, turns on itself and expends all its energy on bringing down the leaders who are trying to fight him."

Like when the conservatives tried to do the same thing with Clinton? What was it he did again? Oh yeah Perjury, that thing that you don't think is an "actual crime."

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[info]robolizard
2007-03-07 09:50 am UTC (link)
Hey hey, I'm not sure if you know this, but you are linked to now on the Adult Swim main page under 'The Voice of Dr. Venture's other Ventures'. This officially takes this blog from 'cult' to 'cult hit'. Congratulations! [eat it Heaven's Gate!]

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Damned by faint praise
[info]teamwak
2007-03-07 10:59 am UTC (link)
Vice President Cheney: "Scooter is entitled to the presumption of innocence. He's a great guy. I have worked with him for a long time, have enormous regard for him"

President Bush: “He served the Vice President and me through extraordinary times in our nation’s history.”

Wall Street Journal Editorial: “In other words, the leaker wasn't Karl Rove or Scooter Libby

Executive Editor Of The Weekly Standard, Fred Barnes: “[L]ibby - An honorable man and a patriot, in my view

Hmmmm. So as a non US citizen, what was the outcome of the yellow cake saga. I thought it was proved that their was no link to Niger. So whats this mean?

"Mr. Wilson chose to go public with an explosive charge, claiming -- falsely, as it turned out -- that he had debunked reports of Iraqi uranium-shopping in Niger and that his report had circulated to senior administration officials"

Que?

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Re: Damned by faint praise
[info]urbaniak
2007-03-07 03:28 pm UTC (link)
The Niger/Yellowcake story is widely discredited (the State Department agreed with Wilson) but because a Senate intelligence committee report was not unanimous on the issue the Wall Street Journal and other Bush loyalists like to suggest that Wilson's statements were "false." If you're a Bush Administration apologist it's Wilson who's the liar--not the high-ranking Administration official convicted of perjury.

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Re: Damned by faint praise
[info]teamwak
2007-03-07 06:38 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for that.

I have subscribed to Time magazine for 10 years. This is one story I couldnt believe; that someone in the Administration outed one of their own spys for political purposes. Surely thats treason?

Time certainly reported that the yellowcake story was de-bunked. Its interesting and a little bit scary if the Administration can hold onto a contrary view and hold it up as fact. Is this the line Fox are taking in this story?

Its all very Orwellean. Thank goodness there is no state-run media *cough*Fox*cough* in US, otherwise.....Da-svi-da-niya Comrade!

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Here's how Orwellian it gets:
[info]urbaniak
2007-03-08 12:39 am UTC (link)
Wilson's original report confirmed that a member of the Iraqi Government made a trip to Niger in 1999 but that there was no evidence then or in 2002 that the former had sought uranium from the latter. He concluded that an Iraq-Niger-Yellowcake connection was unlikely. To Bush loyalists Wilson's report was therefore open to interpretation and not definitive. In fact some Bushites like to say that Wilson proved a connection by confirming the 1999 meeting. This is where the Wall Street Journal editorial page is coming from. If you read the sentence you quoted closely you'll see that they are not actually saying that the now universally held belief that there was no Iraq-Niger-Yellowcake connection is false. They're saying that Wilson's later claims that he debunked these claims in his report are false (specifically in his famous New York Times op-ed that started Cheney's smear campaign against him). Never mind that today no one believes there was ever a Iraq-Niger-Yellowcake connection. The important thing is to put the words "Joseph Wilson" and "falsely" in the same sentence. This method of twisting the truth and cherry-picking data to serve a dubious storyline is of course the same method that was used by the Bush Administration to get us into the war.

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Re: Here's how Orwellian it gets:
[info]toddalcott
2007-03-08 01:03 am UTC (link)
And keep in mind that the Wall Street Journal is a hyper-conservative, pro-business, pro-Halliburton, pro-Cheney capitalist rag for smarties.

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Re: Here's how Orwellian it gets:
[info]teamwak
2007-03-08 01:38 am UTC (link)
I dont know if I am getting all Cold War about this, but in this cynical politician/media world we live in, have we forgotten that a spy was outed for petty political gain? Maybe it isnt so petty, after all a war was in involved!

But still, I am 33 and was brought up in the Cold War like you and a lot of your readers. We all have spies, and some very important work was done by patriots risking all for their country. There is enough movies about spies left out in the cold by dodgy governments to know that this is crime number one! What would Brock say?

But to out a spy of your own country just to dis-credit her husband? And ruin any potential work she had done? Thats bloody treason in my book!

Rant over :)

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[info]brain_auk
2007-03-07 07:52 pm UTC (link)
Haven't given that much thought to Libby or cavemen recently, I've had my own problems to deal with. Post-graduate work can be a real headache.

In other news, a friend of mine is doing a documentary on spiders for one of your local cable outlets (disc? i think) and her vo guy skipped on ehr. She asked me if I knew any actors with a dry, seductive delivery and i mentioned you have a delivery as dry as teh mohave that can nevertheless dampen panties at 100 paces. So you might be getting a call from her.

Me I don't have the time or patience for making documentaries although many ask me to. Stay sexy and maybe I'll hire you one day.

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[info]urbaniak
2007-03-07 11:17 pm UTC (link)
She can reach me through the Paradigm Agency. Serious inquiries only.

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[info]brain_auk
2007-03-08 12:06 am UTC (link)
Paradigm, rly?

I had you pegged as an endeavor guy. u like paradigm?

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[info]agent_999
2007-03-08 12:04 pm UTC (link)
Not too long ago I indulged my Geico Caveman obsession by reading everything I could find on the interweb. Needless to say I was very excited when I heard about the pilot. Have you seen the interactive site where you can listen to the songs in the caveman’s Ipod or peek inside his microwave, read his magazines etc.? I LOVE THAT GUY!

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